Pardon this hate-filled post.
Posted by tim in Pissed on July 1, 2005

I've never had to go through the immigration process, so if I say anything that isn't right, I apologize now.

Nearly 14 years after coming to the United States on six-month tourist visas, Marvin and Marina Gonzalez finally toured the nationís capital. But it was a bittersweet event - a wonderful sightseeing experience combined with a last-ditch lobbying effort to try to stave off a Tuesday deadline to leave the country voluntarily or face deportation. The Gonzalez family received plenty of political sympathy but no approval to stay.

Oh wah wah wah...

I saw this on the news this morning, and I became so angry that I had to leave the house.

Here's the deal: The parents left Costa Rica like 14 years ago, lived here on 6 month visas, and CONTINUED to live here...ILLEGALLY!

Now, that's not even the half of it... The deal is the family's LAWYER, a US RESIDENT, has tried to friggin' JUSTIFY their staying here!!!


There are immigration laws. Why can't these immigrants follow those laws just like everyone else? And why are they EXEMPT from those laws, in their lawyer's eyes?


I live in a small farming community in Northwest Indiana. There was a rather large chain of dairy farms come in to the area about 10 years ago. When those farms came in, they promised jobs and better economy for the local unemployed residents. They hired a lot of the local highschool graduates and gave them decent paying jobs with benefits, and everyone was happy.

Probably a year later, there was a rise in the local "Hispanic" population. No, not the English-speaking, dark-skinned people you typically see celebrating Cinco de Mayo. These are the traditional, "no comprende", Mexican immigrants that literally live 15 to a 2 bedroom house.

Within the last couple of years, there has been a pretty big change in the local atmosphere. Probably about 15% of the people around here are immigrants. I would venture to say that 90% of that 15% are here illegally, and probably 98% of them don't speak any English. Also, with this massive immigration, there have been a lot of local residents laid off from the farms, had hours cut, and had pay cuts.

I can guarantee you that the immigrants are being paid rather well, in cash, and not at all concerned about paying taxes. Does anyone care? Pfft... <sarcasam>"They do all the dirty jobs that the locals won't touch."</sarcasam> Riiiiight...

So yeah, back to the rant... Do NOT come to my country if you're not going to follow the laws, speak the language, and pay the taxes. If you do, and you get deported, tough crap: I don't want to hear the whining when you do.

Do I only care about the Cubans, Costa Ricans, and Mexicans? HECK NO! I feel just the same if a Canadian, Brit, or German does this same crap!

If you're interested, read about the Gonzalez family.


Well said.

  • Posted by Jason (Guest) on July 1, 2005 at 10:28:35AM

Even left the house? That shit is retarded in itself.

  • Posted by Matt (Guest) on July 1, 2005 at 05:56:45PM

Uh... I think you posted a comment in the wrong entry, Matt.

  • Posted by tim (Guest) on July 1, 2005 at 09:37:25PM

No..."I saw this on the news this morning, and I became so angry that I had to leave the house."

Dude, you care too much.

  • Posted by Matt (Guest) on July 2, 2005 at 01:59:09AM

Well said, indeed. This country needs a boot in the ass.

"Dude, you care too much."

And whining, leftist pacifists--cough you cough--are the reason these problems that we "care too much about" exist in the first place. In the words of your idols: Peace out. Now go hug a fucking rainbow.

  • Posted by Josh (Guest) on July 2, 2005 at 07:43:06PM

You can't care too much about your world -- you live in it.

If no one takes action, the worst possible action will take place. Think hitler; instead of letting shit happen that you don't like, be proactive.

  • Posted by Siplus (Guest) on July 2, 2005 at 09:39:02PM

Here's my biggest issue:

There's laws. The laws aren't followed. The laws aren't enforced. When the laws ARE enforced, people spaz out and call it "inhumane".

  • Posted by tim (Guest) on July 2, 2005 at 11:53:43PM

I should add...

There's this exit from a large parking lot just a little ways away from the shop I work at. There's a sign up that CLEARLY states "No Left Turn".

Today, I watched a car make a left hand turn out of there, RIGHT IN FRONT OF A POLICE OFFICER, and nothing was done about it.

There's a law. It's not enforced. Nobody appears to care.

  • Posted by tim (Guest) on July 2, 2005 at 11:55:08PM

"learn the language"

U.S. has no official language. I speak 3.

  • Posted by Matt (Guest) on July 3, 2005 at 02:50:47AM

wtf? ^^^^

Josh, shut up.

The point Tim made I 100% agree with, but worrying about something like immigrants so much to make you physically angry and to leave the house is worrying, its unhealthy.

  • Posted by Matt (Guest) on July 3, 2005 at 06:59:50AM

Dammit, Matt. You're doing JUST what everyone always does: Ignoring the point.

The point is that there are immigration laws that AREN'T being enforced. LAWS LAWS LAWS LAWS. You know that paper you wrote about Copyright law? LAWS LAWS LAWS LAWS LAWS.

A law is a law. If it isn't followed, penalties need to occur.

If we didn't have laws, like the laws that say you have to be 18 or older to purchase a gun and 21 or older to purchase ammunition, there would be sooooo many problems with the 10 year olds buying a 12ga. shotgun, shooting their schoolmates they don't like, and in the process breaking their arm from the recoil of the rifle.

If we didn't have laws like the speed limit, everyone would be driving as fast as their cars could go, and they wouldn't be able to stop for the old lady crossing the street, they wouldn't be able to yeild to the car turning in front of them.

Okay, so we have these laws. Cool. Are they enforced? For the most part, yes. Does it change the quality of life for us? VERY MUCH SO.

Go back and read the entry from earlier this week. There's a point in there about a car breaking the speed limit in front of a police officer, and nothing was done. The same thing is happening with the immigration laws. BOTH THINGS PISS ME OFF JUST AS MUCH. What pisses me off even more is the liberal "human rights" activists who have the beliefs that if the immigration laws are enforced, it's a violation of human rights.

It's the sporadic enforcement of the laws. It's the "rainbow hugging" people complaining when the laws ARE enforced. These are why I get so angry. Why did I leave the house? Because there were other people present that I didn't want to spread the anger to, that I didn't want to have to worry about making upset with things I would say. It was a preventative measure.

(Pardon me if this entry is a bit disorganized. I've been interrupted through the entire thing.)

  • Posted by tim (Guest) on July 3, 2005 at 09:44:26AM

Ignoring the point? Right....

What do you think happens here? Our immigration problem is as big as yours, we were recently told that there are around 700,000 immigrants were in our country "that we dont know about", thats just for starters.

You watched this on the news, you have gone from being placcid and relaxed to livid in the space of 5 minutes, all because of something that has happened for centuries: the English, the Irish, the Mexicans, South Americans in general....all the difference is that its being reported about instead of fought in the streets (its just makes good news doesnt it).

The reason I say this is because you exhibited this exact same behaviour about 2 maybe 3 years ago, when looking at Google News would invoke an over-zealous passion.

Enough of this "rainbow hugging" crap, who's the rainbow hugger? Im the one who WANTS id cards, is against the amount of Polish and Eastern Europeans in my country.

I think I deserved the condescension in your post because I was cutthroat with my posts, but I stand firm with my comment that getting pissed at something you have no control over isnt good for you.

  • Posted by Matt (Guest) on July 3, 2005 at 10:03:17AM

I honestly think that that's why the problem exists to the point it does today. Not enough people have gotten pissed because they didn't feel it was that big of an issue, that they had no control over it, that the US was founded by agressive immigrants, yadda yadda yadda... If the problem is going to be stopped, people HAVE to get pissed, they HAVE to voice their opinion, and they HAVE to take action.

  • Posted by tim (Guest) on July 3, 2005 at 10:06:06AM

Tell me......What action will make a difference?

  • Posted by Matt (Guest) on July 3, 2005 at 10:07:27AM

If enough people take a stand and make sure that the laws are enforced (citizen's arrest comes to mind), then the law enforcement officials will start to get the message.

  • Posted by tim (Guest) on July 3, 2005 at 01:59:44PM

I agree taking action is a good step. Going outside though and getting yourself upset is not taking action. How many people noticed you outside? One? Two? Maybe your dogs also. That did not help the cause. All it did was piss you off. Rather than taking stuff personally, it might be better to channel them negative thoughts that force you to leave the house into doing something that resembles action.

  • Posted by Jason (Guest) on July 3, 2005 at 02:11:42PM

So in effect, you become a vigilante group/nation/collective? Hmm....

  • Posted by Matt (Guest) on July 3, 2005 at 02:11:57PM

Also Josh you were just bang out of order there. Go look it up. Using every opportunity to take a dig at someone got boring a while back.

  • Posted by Jason (Guest) on July 3, 2005 at 02:12:55PM

Oh yeah vigilantes work. Lets just arm everyone. Thing is citizens arrests don't work unless you are 6'5 and 400lbs. You think a person with no respect for the law will give two shits about slapping someone?

  • Posted by Jason (Guest) on July 3, 2005 at 02:15:36PM

Jason: I went outside and got in my truck and went to work early. There was no harm done towards anyone.

The first person that tries to say that driving while angry is worse will be pissing me off even more. Even when I'm angry, I still make clear decisions. I still notice every little thing that could cause my driving to change at a moment's notice, and I still follow the speed limit, stop at stoplights, and yield to the oncoming traffic.

  • Posted by tim (Guest) on July 3, 2005 at 02:25:16PM

"I saw this on the news this morning, and I became so angry that I had to leave the house."

So you had to leave the house because you were so angry like you said or was it for work purposes you left the house? Sorry but it just sounded a tad contradicting to me seeing as it can be one or the other that forced you to leave the house early.

If it is the former, then what did it achieve towards getting rid of them pesky illegal immigrants? And if it is the latter why the drama? My point was that getting so upset you had to walk out did nothing towards fixing this problem and it can only be bad for you and your moods. I am sure half dead you could drive better than any spastic who doesn't know the rules of the road and I was never questioning that.

  • Posted by Jason (Guest) on July 3, 2005 at 02:45:47PM

What was I supposed to do?

a) Stay at home and be angry, whining and complaining, and possibly getting even angrier and causing a fight with my parents or ruining their day somehow

b) Leave the house and be angry, whining and complaining to myself, and getting to work extremely early to calm down with nobody else around

c) Absolutely nothing

  • Posted by tim (Guest) on July 3, 2005 at 09:55:27PM

d) Start a webpage to get rid of these lawbreaking fucks so we can all sign it :) I'll host it as I do everything else.

  • Posted by Jason (Guest) on July 4, 2005 at 10:40:39AM

...says the guy with a job, education, and home.

  • Posted by Dustin (Guest) on July 5, 2005 at 02:17:07AM

Most people have chances in life. That's why you and us have welfare systems.

  • Posted by Jason (Guest) on July 6, 2005 at 02:38:33PM
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