Also said in famous context by politicians, most notably Winston Churchill.

wtf Someone ask you to untie their shoes again?

I completely sympathise with your situation as I was in the same situation with my family many years ago.

My mother and father separated in a few blazing arguements when I was about 3-4, it was horrible because I can still remember them to this day. Well my mother was left to bring up two kids with a job working at a bar and some friendly neighbours to help look after us.

My mum did the best from a bad situation, she worked as often as possible, we recieved state help e.g. free milk, school dinners etc to help out with certain costs. My mum would buy our clothes from the local charity shops, looking through photos we did a damn good job.

Luckily my mum had met my stepdad befrore my mum and dad split up, he managed to convince her into trusting him, she didnt at first but eventually did.

Ever since then we have enjoyed the values of being in a tight knit family, my mum now runs her own business and my stepdad still continues to work copius amounts of overtime at the police station to help afford little luxuries at the end of the month.

I havent spoken to my father in like 2 years now, its a shame but I dont miss it, my stepdad does a good enough job (does that sound harsh?) The morals that my mother has passed to me have stuck, I have always tried to find work as she refuses to support me (currently I am jobless perhaps im looking for the perfect job) I hate it when my mum nags me to pull my ifnger out but in my heart of hearts I know she is right.

Tim, I dont know really what to say but I hope you will get some luck going your way soon.

Actually, every other channel I went to had commercials on as well.

So... "everything" = 2 channels?

I say, "change for nobody", because I am so sick of seeing people put on a different face just to make a new friend, get a new job, etc.

If it is something serious, then yes, I will change it. Something like not drinking, or not going to the clubs, is what I won't change. Just because I don't live that lifestyle means that I should try to just to meet someone.

I didnt wanna pressure you into reversing your opinion on her I just wanted to raise the issue that "nobody's perfect". If what she has done cannot be undone then I agree with what you say.

Changing for nobody....I consider that selfish, not in this case but as a general viewpoint. I believe that you must be firm with your beliefs but adapting to different situations would stop you appearing to be stuck up and ignorant to those around you. Change is inherent in people, it makes them human.

If you won't tolerate it, then it sounds like there's no question.

Is this a serious matter or just one of a moral standpoint? All I can say if that is the case is that its up to you.

Thing is, she doesn't need to prove me right on her past. I don't want to go into detail, but I know she has done this and I know that neither I nor my family will tolerate it.

It seems like such a waste to have to pass this chance up because of one deal in her past, but it is one of those things that just makes it all not worthwhile. I have passed up other chances at relationships because of the same thing, only they weren't interested in me to the degree this girl is.

On a lighter note, I have to go back in there today.

She may have violated some of your morals but then again so might a girl that you meet in a street, you just dont know it. Because you obviously know about her past you are:

a) worried that she will prove you right and end up hurting you

b) you are afraid of what other people may think (which you say it wont but its more of an issue than most people think)

What you need to do is get to know her better. You need to build your own opinion, even if she has done things in the past doesnt mean she isnt willing/or has changed. Next time you're in there, ask her for her (is it cell number in the US), pluck the courage up to talk to her and see what happens.

Its not worth dismissing her advances when you say your like her too, let her prove you wrong.

/moral lesson over....

good luck mate.

aha, yes.....i remember now..

Actually, it's the end of one. Tears of the Sun.

thats a beginning of a film, cant think what though..

How exactly does a person frig anyway?

who the hell would be watching you anyway?

just trying to make you feel better, hope it worked!

don't assume the first thing you think of if you are that paranoid...

anyway, i highly doubt they would use a laser-sight if they didn't want you knowing.

It's so hot in his truck that he cooked to a nice golden red.

burn baby burn!

Oh dear, thats hit an all time low..

Cliff Morrical. He died in January of 2002.

Whoa, who was that?

Death knows no age or creed.

With that said, I feel for ya man. When I was working at the factor I worked at, one of the guys on my crew was killed in a farming accident. He and I were more than just co-workers though; our families knew each other fairly well.

sure...let me drive out to indiana real quick...

Uhh...wouldn't drugs make them weirder?

congrats mate!

You all can improve by practicing again.

I am doomed also....for I cannot sing as I used to. Now, I sound like those peoples I used to make fun of. Serves me right. -_-

It's not like you can never get it back. :P

That's what I'm probably going to end up doing anyhow. The CIS major at IU is in the Kelley School of Busines.